Ok, so this thread got me thinking that I should make a part two of my voting tutorial. This one will be a bit different, however. I will use the same idea for each example, and show you what makes an entry a 6, for example, and not a 5 or a 7. Ok, lets do it!For this tut, im going to use my first place Fine and Dandyentry.1. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/1.jpg
Any entry you rate a 1, should be flagged at the same time. If it's so bad as to deserve a 1, it shouldn't be on worth1000. We don't need to list examples. You'll know them when you see them.
Why is this a 1?Now, this entry is obviously pure crap, and doesn't need a lot of explanation. This entry should be flagged.It has terrible masking, lens flare, and looks like it was done on MS Paint.Why isn't this entry a 2? If this had a sharper girl source, and lacked lens flare, this would be a two. Also the image is tiny, size is a big factor. Always make sure your entries are at least 500px in width.2. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/2.jpg?t=1171934843
Any entry that is horrible. It probably should also be flagged.
Why is this entry a 2?Now our girl is a little bit sharper, and the masking is a tad better. There are some artifacts, and a still a little blue around the edges.Why isn't this a 3?Pay attention to the seeds, they are much too large in comparison to the flower.3. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/3.jpg?t=1171935420
An entry that is below average. Definitely needs that extra hour of work or thought. Easy things have been ignored.
Why is this a 3?The little girl seems to be too orangey, and it is hard to see the bird formation. The masking is better, and the seeds are scattered, adding more realism to the entry.Why isn't it a 4?The source image of the girl is what is holding this entry back, it is too low res. The flower is unrecognizable, and is likely to confuse voters.4. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/4.jpg?t=1171935421
An entry that could have been good, but is missing that extra 15 minutes of work or thought behind it.
Why is this a 4?The low res girl source has been replaced by a higher res disembodied mystical face, adding more mystery to the piece. You can definetly see the flower now, and the entry makes more sense.Why isn't it a 5?Take a look at the bird, it is too "thick" in lack of a better word. The seeds are too uniform, if they were scattered a bit, it would look more realistic.5. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/5.jpg?t=1171936164
It's average. Not great, not bad.
Why is this a five?The seeds are now scattered and the bird is a little bit more recognizable. Why isn't it a 6?Theres an awful lot of negative space to the left side of the image. The bird still looks too clustered and isnt very bird-like. 6. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/6.jpg?t=1171936585
It's better than average.
Why is this a 6?The bird looks fantastic compared to last time, and the image is more balanced.Why isn't it a 7?This is where realism becomes a big factor. All those seeds in the air, and the dude is still holding a full flower, not very realistic is it? No-sir-ey-George!7. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/7.jpg?t=1171936885
Great idea and execution. It's much better than average.
Why is it a 7?The full flower has been replaced by a emptier flower.Why isn't it an 8?Personally I think this isn't very interesting. In fact its pretty plain and doesn't stick out from other entries. Something seems "off". It needs something to tie the whole image together.8. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/8.jpg?t=1171937715
Terrific idea and execution, and something that sets it apart from just being "great".
Why is it an 8?Oh ya! Now were talkin, babi! A long entry, an automatic ten, right? Wrong. Tall entries are a great way to fit as much as possible in a 500 pixel width, or, like in this image, a good way to give an already good entry that extra little sumfin' sumfin'. But remember kids, its not how long the entry is, its whats inside that counts.Why isnt this a 9?The black background is ok, but what are the odds that this picture was taken in a studio? Probably not.9. http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u270/LatueofStiberty/9.jpg?t=1171938432
This is almost perfect. The idea and execution are fantastic and there is a special something that makes it really stand out.
Why is this a 9?The background adds a whole other element to the entry. The peaceful field makes the picture more natural looking, and is more exciting than a plain old black backdrop.Why isnt it a 10?The faqs describe a ten as-
... perfect and the idea behind it is brilliant. This is the best thing I have seen on this site in a while. "Wow!"
Now, i am gunna be honest, i'm not sure how to take this image to the next level, and make it ten-worthy. If anyone would like to take a stab at it, I would be delighted. Just pm me and ill send you the psd file. :)Well thats my voting tut. Hope you find it helpful. [Edited by LatueofStiberty on 2/19/2007 9:41:54 PM][Edited by LatueofStiberty on 2/19/2007 9:47:26 PM][Edited by Moderator on 1/28/2010 3:18:08 PM]
Very well done LofS! Thanks for all of your hard work.
Wow... thanks. That helps put the voting scale into a little bit more perspective for me.
*claps hands* awesome work! Now go write a text voting tutorial, land of the karma humpers!
Wonderful! I like it much more than the "give every entry in the same contest as you a 4" tutorial that many people seem to follow.Seriously, its great to see the same image strung out along the whole voting scale. I think for a 10 you would have to adjust the light on the face to match an outdoor atmosphere.[Edited by User on 2/20/2007 8:38:50 AM]
I agree with Eli, the face and hand seem dark for the new background. With the black background, the shadows on the face and hand match but, with the new background, it needs to be lightened. The cloud where the seeds are going through bugs me a little. It creates a weird tension point where my eyes seem to stop instead of follow the seeds all the way up to the "bird". So I would take out the one cloud as well.
On 2/19/2007 9:40:40 PM, LatueofStiberty said:Now, i am gunna be honest, i'm not sure how to take this image to the next level, and make it ten-worthy. If anyone would like to take a stab at it, I would be delighted. Just pm me and ill send you the psd file. :)[Edited by LatueofStiberty on 2/19/2007 9:41:54 PM][Edited by LatueofStiberty on 2/19/2007 9:47:26 PM]
I think this would be a 10 if the image had more depth to it. the seeds are falt white, seems unreal and like they are all clones. The perspective of the seeds going up and the sky in the background don't seem to be dead on. Close, but no cigar. I think the shawdowing on the face of the girl is good, but i would saturate the background to match the saturation of the colors in the face and hands. and I probably would either remove the cloud or move it cause you do sorta get lost in it. But that may be cause the cloud has a nice depth to it, where the seeds are flat. Good Tutorial!
Wonderful tutorial! It is just as useful as tut part one.
I think it could use a better sky image- deeper and richer color, without those ugly contrails and oddly placed cloud.
i agree with dixie.i actually think the black backround is better. the wierd dis contracted backround kinda ruins it.try doing what dixie said. cause, i like the black better.but thats just me.cool tut though! :)[Edited by User on 12/10/2007 11:07:30 PM]
Maybe you should either make this stickie on make it a tutorial :)
I've added it to the "All the Links You Need thread, so it will always be accessible... great job again, LoS!
Nice Latue. It won't stop me from voting everyone in my contests a 3 though. :P No way should I have whatever my karma is (I forget after so long).Just kidding, nice tutorial. Personally I reckon the image actually looks better on black. More of a 'WOW' factor for me. Just 'cause of the contrast.[Edited by User on 12/12/2007 4:16:03 PM]
I agree that the image is better on black.Also, I think that the whole tutorial is a bit off and too drastic and exaggerated in terms of the quality of each image.I need to improve it, perhaps with better examples.Im busy with school (i usually would put w1k before schoolwork, but I missed over a month because of arthritis), so after i get all that sorted out, I will do another.
judging a blend.....
And here's part two of LatueofStiberty's great voting tut.
Someone should show to the newbies one of Latue's voting tutorials.
From what I gather, its frowned upon to bump an old thread (saw someone told off in another thread for bumping old thread :D )but you can spank me later ;)Someone just sent me the link to this (thank you) and (I hope) its going to help me get better at voting (I've been voting for ideas)so wanna bump it for the other noobs like me :D
nice tut...
Flowerbottom said...so wanna bump it...
nice job.
Ok, now some things about the voting make more sense. I had this link sent to me or i would have missed it.
olyr saidI had this link sent to me or i would have missed it.
So many things in the FAQs are missed.
Visual Voting Scale - This will help you visualize how the voting scale applies to an entry.
awesome tut...now voting makes more sense to me.:)