LunaStone said 4 months ago 1/28/2012 11:56:49 PM EDT

THIS is so cool!

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Global CouncilArena Adminkimbomac said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 12:55:53 AM EDT

DOES look very cool. Wonder what they are made of?

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Arena Moderatormorporkian said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 8:28:02 AM EDT

Cool, but I read 'had to go all the way to Italy to find it' as 'nowhere else would licence it due to it not being safe'. But maybe I'm just a cynic

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Arena ModeratorCraigMc said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 9:30:44 AM EDT

morporkian said
But maybe I'm just a cynic

What are you cynical about? - is it 'Component "A"' or 'Component "B"'? - nothing at all ominous about it :)

Eurydice said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 10:50:02 AM EDT

Actually, it looks like smoke and not steam. If I wanted a bit of smoke, a bit of incense will do the trick and tons cheaper.

As for steam; many people use smoke to make coffee and such look hot, but it doesn't work that well, in my opinion, cause it doesn't look right. I know some photographers, wet a tampon (yes, the kind women use) and put it in the microwave, then set it behind the coffee cup etc., and can be re-used over and over.

If you are doing the shot of food on a fork, obviously you cannot use the tampon, as you can't hide it. Another trick is a hand held steamer, like the ones for clothes or to clean your bathtub. It's only water and works well. There is a caveat though, you would have to take a photo with and without the steam, and mask out the steam from underneath the food item, which would make the photo ineligible for Worth contests.

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Global CouncilArena AdminAnni said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 9:07:29 PM EDT

Eurydice said
wet a tampon (yes, the kind women use) and put it in the microwave,

This just seems all kinds of wrong to me. lol
(Unless of course I had two microwaves.)


Friend: "Why two microwaves?"
Me: "Um, well, one is dedicated to tampon heating."
Friend: o_0
Me: "Well, shoot, the winters ARE cold ya know."

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Eurydice said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 10:36:16 PM EDT

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You do know that you use fresh, clean unused tampons? It's just compressed cotton.. ;-) :-D

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Eurydice said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 10:54:56 PM EDT

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Actually, we are expecting -29C tonight.. I think I may just have found a way to keep warm. :-D

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LunaStone said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 10:57:19 PM EDT



:D

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Global CouncilArena AdminAnni said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 11:13:41 PM EDT

Eurydice said
You do know that you use fresh, clean unused tampons? It's just compressed cotton.. ;) :D

What happened to 'go green'? (Oh, wait, the mental picture that just created for me isn't a good one!) my bad

;)

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Global CouncilArena AdminAnni said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 11:14:37 PM EDT

Eurydice said
Actually, we are expecting -29C tonight.. I think I may just have found a way to keep warm. :D

/me snickers


So happy to be of help!

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Global CouncilArena AdminAnni said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 11:17:01 PM EDT

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um, Luna, you scare me! (or maybe it's just the idea of your image that will lead to nightmares tonight.)



Though, on the bright side, it appears it might kill two birds with one stone. (Though, again, the thought of two eyes leads me back into nightmare territory.) ;)

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LunaStone said 4 months ago 1/29/2012 11:26:36 PM EDT

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LMAO... you shoulda seen some of the other photos I had to choose from! :crazy: Be grateful! :D

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Global CouncilArena Adminkimbomac said 4 months ago 1/30/2012 12:37:04 AM EDT

This thread has SOOOO gone off the rails!

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Gforced said 4 months ago 1/30/2012 7:20:12 AM EDT

also super-glue and baking power creates a neat puff of smoke.

LunaStone said 4 months ago 1/30/2012 9:44:54 AM EDT

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:D :P :D

'Of all of our inventions for mass communication, pictures still speak the most universally understood language.' -- Walt Disney
Arena Moderatorercolano said 4 months ago 1/30/2012 3:55:27 PM EDT

They are from a company in Milan, who sell quite a few interesting effects.

The place I buy my film from sells the smoke at ?15...looks like the US importer has quite a mark up!

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Hoppurr said 3 months ago 2/4/2012 4:20:24 PM EDT

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for beginner photog contests at least, though advanced photo contests do allow selective editing, including replacing elements that existed in the original photographic moment, as well as compositing 2 or more shots (such as hdr or panoramas), so that should be acceptable in advanced at least if not intermediate where advanced rules are allowed ;)

ICEBUNNY said 3 months ago 2/4/2012 5:57:56 PM EDT

A cotton ball works just as well and be small enough to hide amongst the food and won't give you nightmares, although it doesn't come with a nifty bit of string to stop you burning you fingers. :D

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Global CouncilArena Adminkimbomac said 3 months ago 2/5/2012 1:17:15 PM EDT

Hoppurr said
so that should be acceptable in advanced at least if not intermediate where advanced rules are allowed

errr, no. Eury was right when she stated that combining two images of different scene elements is not permitted in our photography section (that is, unless EXPRESSLY AND EXPLICITLY stated in any given single contest).

Hoppurr said
photo contests do allow selective editing, including replacing elements that existed in the original photographic moment, as well as compositing 2 or more shots (such as hdr or panoramas),

You have somewhat misquoted our FAQ and Rules.


From here in the FAQ


...editing should always be in the vein of coaxing the best out of a capture rather than creating a new image using the editing process. Broadly speaking, you may use post-capture editing to enhance an illusion or effect, but not create the illusion or effect.

This is the Photography section and not the Effects section, so multiple images that did not form part of your original scene may not be combined together to create a scene that never existed in the first place.

In the case of HDRs and panoramas, the scene elements, as depicted, should have been part of one vista in the first place - multiple shots are only permitted to fit it all in one image (in the case of panoramas) or reduce the dynamic exposure range of the single scene (in the case of HDR).

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Arena Moderatormorporkian said 3 months ago 2/5/2012 3:04:45 PM EDT

kimbomac said
reduce the dynamic exposure range of the single scene (in the case of HDR).

by 'reduce', you mean increase, right? ;)

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Global CouncilArena Adminkimbomac said 3 months ago 2/5/2012 5:34:50 PM EDT

morporkian said
by 'reduce', you mean increase, right?

Exactly.

I always took the term to mean that we were taking a scene with a broad range of exposure requirements (lots of brights and lots of darks) and averaging it out to display a smaller range of exposure values.

But now that I read the Wikipedia definition more closely (or at all, really), the term 'range' is applied to the resulting image, rather than the original scene - representing a broader area of the image at the 'correct' exposure in a single frame.

/me decides to get out a photography dictionary and memorise some stuff so as not to stupidly make more assumptions.

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Hoppurr said 3 months ago 2/6/2012 6:36:13 PM EDT

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i stand corrected

Arena Moderatorercolano said 3 months ago 2/9/2012 4:43:56 PM EDT

kimbomac said
But now that I read the Wikipedia definition more closely

And what Wikipedia say's must be right :D

High dynamic range is a generic term that can, is, and has been applied to any situation where a system resolves a greater dynamic range (e.g. amplitude variation) than is typical for that kind of system.

Another example you may remember is 70's audio cassettes.

When you combine multiple images at different exposures, that is HDR capture. When you tone map images you **may** be achieving HDR output, but in this latter case it tends to be a bit more conditional because the extreme tone mapping that gives the cliche 'HDR look' is achieving it's characteristic effect by virtue of the local contrast enhancement; the image does not necessarily compress a greater dynamic range into a lesser range ad offered by the output device.

i.e. The term HDR is more likely to be correctly applied to the input end of the workflow than the output.

BTW, you prompted me to have a look at the Wikipedia article...I find the reference to Wyckoff to be quite interesting. He was a HDR pioneer in the 40's who used the technique for capturing nuclear explosions. How's that for a bonus contest idea?

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Global CouncilArena Adminkimbomac said 3 months ago 2/9/2012 4:45:39 PM EDT

ercolano said
for capturing nuclear explosions. How's that for a bonus contest idea?

Fashioning and photographing miniature nuclear explosions?

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